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Postby Apistogramma » Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:16 am

I'm planning to try and get another 250l tank, 48/15/16.
Plan is to overfiltrate using external filters, giving 74" of stock.
Tank would be planted and using a sand substrate and bogwood caves.
Temp approx 26oc, water soft and acidic, pH 6.8.

Stock:

Pair of Angelfish 12"
1 Red Finned Shark 6"
3-4 Corys (haven't decided on species) 12"
5 Rainbows, either Lake Kutubu or Banded 20"
Pair of Silver Dollar 12"
Pair of Paradise 8"

= 70

Question is do the figures work out - is the stock compatible?
Will the Shark and Cory's co-exist?
Do Dollars need to be in larger groups?
The Paradise...??? I'm just wondering if it would work...

If this wouldn't work what about adding Giant Danio's or Flying Fox to the mix?
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Postby David » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:28 pm

Pair of Angelfish - 24"
1 Red Finned Shark 6"
3-4 Corys (haven't decided on species) 12"
5 Rainbows, either Lake Kutubu or Banded 20"
Pair of Silver Dollar 18""
Pair of Paradise 8"

88"

You need to count body mass, if the angels pair up, waste ect.


The paradise probably wont get on with angels!

Silver dollars could be a threat towards corys, but i've never kept dollars.
:?

It's much harder stocking than you think eh? :lol:

I think you need to rethink your stocking plan. :?
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Postby moocowmoneybox » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:39 pm

Just realised you mentioned silver dollars and plants for the new tank...

The plants wouldnt have much of a chance (also silver dollars should be in a shoal of at least 3 but as with all shoals - the more in the group then the better they will behave)

not sure where the 9" per fish has come from though, 6" is the more common adult size (unless david had taken the larger mass into his calculation)
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Postby David » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:41 pm

not sure where the 9" per fish has come from though, 6" is the more common adult size (unless david had taken the larger mass into his calculation)


Mass and waste, perhaps 16" but i would go 18"

Missed the plants bit.
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Postby Apistogramma » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:25 pm

David wrote:It's much harder stocking than you think eh? :lol:

I think you need to rethink your stocking plan. :?


No it's just as hard as it was last time...hehe which is why I need lots of nice comments about what, where, when and who...
See - you go through the fish forum and count all your inches and stuff and then someone says no that won't work cos the reality is they need more space...it's like a jigsaw puzzle with the wrong pieces!

So taking the Paradise out of the mix - (I can see at some point I'm gonna end up with a single species tank hehe)

Stocking List:
Pair of Angelfish - 24"

And then either:
3-4 Corys (haven't decided on species) 12"
5 Rainbows, either Lake Kutubu or Banded 20"
5 Giant Danio's - I know they grow long but they're think so they take less 'inches'?
= 56" + the danio's...

OR:
Four Silver Dollar 36"
1 Red Finned Shark 6"
= 66"

Looking better?
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Postby Apistogramma » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:27 pm

As for plants will the dollars really destroy an entire planted tank? If so I would have to change the decor and go for more bogwood and slate.
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Postby David » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:33 pm

Giant danios can reach 6" in the wild.
I doubt they would make that in aquariums but they have quite a bit of body mass so i would count them at 6"

So 30" meaning 86" of fish. :?

There are danios that would reach 4" which would suit better, but many would prefer cooler temps! :?



But if you want a planted tank, drop the silver dollars. :wink:
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Postby dw » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:36 pm

How about some hatchetfish instead of the danios?
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Postby David » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:37 pm

dw wrote:How about some hatchetfish instead of the danios?


Those would go well, also there is little risk of you angels eating them.

there's a small chance the angels would eat the danios if they were small but hatchets are the wrong shape and wouldn't fit in their mouths!
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Postby dw » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:41 pm

Exactly, and there'd be something occupying every layer of the tank :)
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Postby Apistogramma » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:54 pm

Slow down! hehe I need time to process...
I was looking at the giant danio's because of the angelfish potentially snacking...

Planted tank plus:

Pair of Angelfish - 24"
3-4 Corys (haven't decided on species) 12"
5 Rainbows, either Lake Kutubu or Banded 20"
1 Red Finned Shark 6"

= 62"

No one said whether the corys and shark would come to blows?
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Re: New Tank

Postby jzaine » Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:12 pm

I'd be cautious with the cories and rainbow shark (is it a red finned rainbow shark or a red tailed black shark?) Rainbow sharks like having the bottom to themselves and in their territory they will chase away anything that get's too close. I have one in a smaller tank than you are getting and whatever comes to the bottom he will chase back to the top, which is why I got guppy's since they stay at the top. They love their caves.
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Postby jzaine » Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:14 pm

Forgot to mention that I've never had cories so I don't know how their behaviour is. Another member will answer that for the truth.
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Postby David » Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:19 pm

Lets just say i wouldn't risk it!
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Postby JBC223456 » Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:20 pm

In a large tank as yours, I am sure there wouldn't be any problem with keeping a Red-Finned Shark and 3-4 cories in there. Just make sure there are some large caves for the shark, and then some small ones for the cories. :wink:
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